TOPIC: Dimensional Emblems....

I've been brainstorming ideas on how to produce these without casting- And did a bit of an experiment tonight. This isn't quite finished yet, still needs touch up-



The only emblem I had to work with on the ship is the one off my '59 Lark. I am missing one from the cowl, so I thought I'd try to make one. Of course, In the mean time, I located an original replacement, but I finished up the experiment anyway.

The finish is a bit crude on this, I'd need to refine it more, but overall it turned out OK for a first shot.

The material is a PVC- So it's relatively hard but still flexible, and should be able to take the marine environment pretty well. It can be painted, foiled like this, OR can have the color right in it when formed- Which might be an option for some emblems.

Ingenious!

Frank

I had these cast at a local aluminum foundry. It cost $100 for the rough castings.

man andrew,you just keep amazing me,great job,i just got a steering wheel from ebay and the center design is only 1 3/8 inches across,i would like to repace this with one that you make,im not sure what to put on it yet though,lol,ill pay you for it,john

andrew here is a pic of it,i think its going to goon the devil ray,and i plan on customizing it a bit,so could you fit "gibson custom classic"like i said though it cant be bigger the 1 3/8s inch across,maybe its too small,lol,john and here is the color of the interior,white and teal,thanks john

John-

I should be able to make that, no problem... I can work on some designs for you- I would probably have to change the design a bit so it'll fit in that small of a circle, but that's no problem. I'll do a couple samples.

-Andrew

wow andrew i thank you from the bottom of my heart,i would love having an andrew gott original,send me the bill,i want to pay you for your time,as i can see you are on to something thats going to be big,and your going to be a very busy man,john

I'm thinking something along these lines-



This is enlarged- the 'real' one is 1 3/8"...

Not to hijack the thread - who would have enough talent to recreate a decal/sticker for my Silvercraft? Here is the only picture I have of it just after I bought it three years ago. A couple of months later most of what is shown here was gone.

I know, not much to go with, but it's all I have.

Andrew,
That looks GREAT!

John that will look awesome on the Devil Ray.

Bob

That looks great.
I especially like the outer font.
Neil

Something like this-


It's not done- Needs more refining. Lots of guesswork, of course, since there is not much left of the original!

Wow! You do amazing work! Thank you!

andrew wow!!!!!!!!!!! i love it,boy you are one talented person.
could you also while your at it make me a couple of larger ones,and can you put the word "custom "after gibson,like "gibson custom boat restoration"since i tend to customize boats,lol,some might say over customize,lol.
i thnk you from the bottom of my heart,let me know how much and ill send as soon as i can,john p.s. you truley amaze me and im kind of an artist,but you blow me right out of the water.

just noting some stuff, it seems to be two words instead of one and the North "point" is "below" and "between" the two words...I not picking honest just wondering if I can help Andrew at all, I can work the Words and the "Super-Man" Pop-out if he would like...

also the funny thing is the chevron that the star is "over" the "tips" of the star are even with the bottom of the chevron, it kind of reminded me of the old fiberglassic logo for a brief moment.

just got to "color" it a bit but this was just a ruff stab in the dark...literally (insomnia...)

let me know if I can help, not doing much of anything else other drawing in a reduced scale...which is a bit mind numbing.

Thanks, John. Glad you like it

It's EASY to make changes-



They look better in real life, These are screen resolution.

if you can use it...but it's not perfect.

john, it looks spectacular!! i love it.

mark, i think you and andy are on to something BIG. i would like to display it on some kind of fiberboard with the word "CustomCraft" with a pic of a mantaray worked in somehow. i'd purchase to display at shows. somethin in the 24"w x 18"h ron

Andgott wrote:

Thanks, John. Glad you like it

It's EASY to make changes-

They look better in real life, These are screen resolution.

wow thats great buddy,i think they look great on the screen,i love it,im going to use this as my logo,i think you might just be looking at the start of a very,very small bussiness,lol,if its easy to change could you make,the bottom words a little bolder(bigger and a small space between them,im sorry im such a p i a ,lol but like i said you are designing my new logo,lol,and im thinking signs and t shirts,at least a couple,lol and darn your good,i only want the change so people can read it at a distance,you really are good thanks buddy,

john, i thot the same thing. the bottom is hard to read.

yeah alittle,but it is fantastic,i love it ,hes very very good.i cant wait to see the new one,i know it will knock my socks off,so i guess i am going to start a small bussiness,lol,just my little garage and me,lol,what great is i will have an andrew gott original design,how cool is that.im going to make up some t shirts and stuff,boy i used to have a construction company,it would be nice to sart another bussiness,im just very slow lol,i have to watch my heart,lo,but this is exciting to me,thank you andrew ,you have inspired me.by the way i love the colors and the j g ,perfect.
like i still have the tshirt with houstons design,its very important to me.john

WOW!!
Don't forget to take your meds John.

lol,yep jerry about 20 or so pills a day/night,heck i dont need to eat breakfast.lol.john

Ummm...I'm just reading this thread. I have original Evinrude emblems for the 1959 Lark. I own four of them and have collected lots of parts over the years.

boy andrew i just read what i wrote,and it makes me look like i dont appreciate what an amazing job you have done,its absolutely beautiful,ill will use the ones you already made and i will be darned proud to have a andrew gott designed logo,please forgive me,and i thank you with all my heart,they are great,thank you andrew ,john

crosbyboat wrote:

Ummm...I'm just reading this thread. I have original Evinrude emblems for the 1959 Lark. I own four of them and have collected lots of parts over the years.

Yeah, I know this one isn't a rarity at all- It's just the only emblem I had with me, and I wanted to try an 'experiment'. I get restless like that.

I found some replacement emblems for this one already- $5.00- I figured that was a pretty good price!!

John-

Don't worry- Changes are REALLY easy to make to the emblem. I want you to be happy with it, not just like it because that's how it is...

andrew thank you so much,i love the logo,its great i am adopting it lol,ill send some money soon as i can,your time and talent are worth it,really worth it,john

Brian, you have any Johnson emblems?
I got these from what's his name in Canada. They're OK, but they're not real.

There is someone selling those on E-Bay-

cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/VINTAGE-JOHNSON-SEA-HORSE-OUTBOARD-EMBLEM-MEDALLION-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2a0d2dba48QQitemZ180609727048QQptZBoatQ5fPartsQ5fAccessoriesQ5fGear#ht_2437wt_902

I don't buy the story of how he 'discovered' them, but they look nice all the same

Andrew and Houston - thanks for the designs. Not sure which one I like better - also thought maybe a shadowed cursive logo.

well..I don't know if I am helping so if any one wants to grab what I am putting up..feel free use it how ever..

but yes to the norm I got totally lost in my cs5 and other programs....here's what I ended up with so far.

Havn't done the chevron in this but...

with a little bit of implied motion...

john take your meds...as for me i am on ...nada zip now, which could explain me playing with my graphic programs...

aquatech wrote:

maybe a shadowed cursive logo.

Ok that's not a problem, I was working off what was left of the OEM sticker...

Would you like that in a "standard" script with a drop shadow or a more retro 3-D with some flare?

it's a Silver Craft I would have to assume but what model is it?

yes I like toying with my graphics program.

Houston,

I was thinking of just a standard script with shadowing because I thought reproducing something original looking would be impossible. I was wrong! Something retro looking might be good too.

Model wise, who knows?? All I'm going on is the registration which says it's a 1975 Silvercraft. I cannot find any ID numbers and I've only seen one other ever offered for sale. Silvercrafts were made in Oregon back in the 70's-early 80's.

andrew,could you email me high resolution pics of the logos,i want to vista them,and they say it has to be above 75 ppi?? of course i will pay you for your time,thank you john

aquatech, in making them it not...that difficult because I have the editor software to make them and it fun for me also.

the problem is I don't know what to set the output for the person who is making the hard-copy (the decal). output as far as the file type and size -?- x -?-, which I could always email them the raw adobe cs-5 format file which could be used by any APS program.

I can work on a couple of different free styles, but what more can you tell me about the Boat, it's a Silver-Craft or is it SilverCraft, so far the Model is Unknown (which if you posted a picture of it surely someone may know), what is it's length? being able to put a nice 3-D number on to the manufacture name can makes it POP sometimes...

John..PPI is the setting for Resolution (e.g. 72 pixels per inch (ppi) The confusion seems to arise because people aren't sure of how these are related. They wonder if ppi affects the size of the image you see on a monitor screen. We know that displays are measured in pixels (e.g. a 1024x1280 display), and that screens are a given with (e.g. 15"), it seems logical that the pixels/inch setting should affect the size of the displayed image. Logical maybe, but wrong. Although monitors do have a measurable figure for ppi (pixels per inch), the ppi information in an image is NOT used for monitor display in web browsers.

so to explain another term, dpi, which is associated with printers. DPI stands for "dots per inch" and is a property of a printer and printer driver software, not a digital image. It's a measure of how finely spaced the droplets of ink can be in a print. However the number is a bit misleading since it's not always measured in the way you think it might be! Printer settings of 360dpi, 720dpi, 1440dpi and 2880dpi are often found. However the difference between then is subtle at best. Most people probably couldn't tell the difference and 360dpi usually looks great. Changing DPI does not change the size of the print. ppi controls that. dpi controls print quality (though as I said, over 360dpi you typically don't see much change) unless your using a high-end laser printer.

The really scary thing to take in to consideration is if Micheal Angelo had the capabilities of what we are able to do "now" back when he was working on the chapel's, his art work would have been better but he probably would have gone insane trying to work for the detail.

i always said.."JUST ASK HOUSTON"...seems like a good name for a new forum

This should work-

That's 4" x 4" @ 300dpi....

houston wrote:

the problem is I don't know what to set the output for the person who is making the hard-copy (the decal). output as far as the file type and size -?- x -?-, which I could always email them the raw adobe cs-5 format file which could be used by any APS program.

That's why I just make 'em all vector graphics.... I don't worry about the DPI, CYMK, RGB.... Just let if flow. Then, I can convert as required when or if I get the specs from the printer. Otherwise, I just send a big-A$$ed JPG